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Frank N

Not Stabbed Lately


 Posted - 07/22/2010 :  09:07:09 Show Profile Visit Frank N's Homepage Click to see Frank N's MSN Messenger address
For all of you guys who keep sending me Friend requests from facebook. Stop. I don't care what Duane had for lunch, who Mark shot at lately, or anything else that gets posted on there. If I want to talk to you or wonder what is going on in your life, I will pick up the phone or go visit you.




I don't remember when I set up a profile, I'm sure it was quite some time ago and I never use it.


(I'd log on and delete the damn thing but I don't have access from work)



Social Networks: Killing verbal communication skills since Al Gore invented the internet.
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quote:
Biggest problem i had was figuring out how to get the nuts off , then i realized what that hole was for .

Originally posted by Fire Marshal Bill - 07/17/2008 : 3:22:02 PM


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Robbie

Zoo Freak


 1   Posted - 07/22/2010 :  09:17:32 Show Profile Visit Robbie's Homepage Click to see Robbie's MSN Messenger address
Delete Facebook account.

One of the best things I ever did.

Not only is that stupid thing a huge waste of time, but they are known to have the security equivalent of swiss cheese.
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When God made the ass, he didn't say, 'Hey, it's just your basic hinge, let's knock off early.' He said, 'Behold ye angels, I have created the ass. Throughout the ages to come, men and women shall grab hold of these, and shout my name!

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Jon

Rock Stacker


 2   Posted - 07/22/2010 :  09:27:11 Show Profile Visit Jon's Homepage
Well... if you use it like a daily planner and keep all your crap in it... yep... you are asking for trouble..

but it works great to keep in touch with people all over the world.

by the way... both of you are great examples of how NOT to live online...
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"I am here to chew bubble gum and kick some ass ... and I'm all out of bubble gum"

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Frank N

Not Stabbed Lately


 3   Posted - 07/22/2010 :  09:29:53 Show Profile Visit Frank N's Homepage Click to see Frank N's MSN Messenger address
quote:


by the way... both of you are great examples of how NOT to live online...

Originally posted by Jon - 07/22/2010 : 09:27:11



Hello Pot.

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Biggest problem i had was figuring out how to get the nuts off , then i realized what that hole was for .

Originally posted by Fire Marshal Bill - 07/17/2008 : 3:22:02 PM


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Robbie

Zoo Freak


 4   Posted - 07/22/2010 :  09:36:33 Show Profile Visit Robbie's Homepage Click to see Robbie's MSN Messenger address
I prefer to live offline. So I'll accept that comment.

This and other forums are a diversion for when I'm at work. Try contacting me after hours or on the weekends on the internet... Even though I have my email access in my pocket I still don't look at it.
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When God made the ass, he didn't say, 'Hey, it's just your basic hinge, let's knock off early.' He said, 'Behold ye angels, I have created the ass. Throughout the ages to come, men and women shall grab hold of these, and shout my name!

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motorx

Tail Gunner


 5   Posted - 07/22/2010 :  10:16:53 Show Profile
Whats Facebook?
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Originally posted by Electric Sheep-

"that only applies because you're buying cheap shit"

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Jon

Rock Stacker


 6   Posted - 07/22/2010 :  10:22:11 Show Profile Visit Jon's Homepage
Frank, I live online... its how I keep up with things in the world...

you also live online... you just have a wife that posts everything for you...

Robbie, over the years you have posted more about your life than anyone I know... when you are old and gray (LOL) Jen will want to know all about you... and all she will do is google your name and all the crap will still be there.
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Texas4x4

Tail Gunner


 7   Posted - 07/22/2010 :  10:37:05 Show Profile
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For all of you guys who keep sending me Friend requests from facebook. Stop. I don't care what Duane had for lunch, who Mark shot at lately, or anything else that gets posted on there. If I want to talk to you or wonder what is going on in your life, I will pick up the phone or go visit you.

Originally posted by Frank N - 07/22/2010 : 09:07:09


'Sorry about that
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Alcohol does not make you FAT!

it makes you LEAN....

…..against tables, chairs, floors, walls and ugly people.

Or, in Brett's case - makes you blind in one eye...

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Cbaer

Tail Gunner


 8   Posted - 07/22/2010 :  10:59:25 Show Profile Visit Cbaer's Homepage
I got up about 8, had some coffee, a protein shake, sat with Russ and watched the new for a bit, fixed tuna salad for lunch, came to work, answered emails, started some estimates, then home to do laundry from trip, clean bathrooms, maybe send a sympathy card to a friend who lost his mom, get some stamps, decide to whether to have lunch with the pastor who married us 22 years ago, finish my Laura Bush biography book...........
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In the 60's people took acid to make the world look wierd. Now people in a wierd world take Prozac to make it look normal.

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Jon

Rock Stacker


 9   Posted - 07/22/2010 :  11:52:43 Show Profile Visit Jon's Homepage
I hope you emailed that to Frank and Robbie....
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tribemimi

CoPilot


 10   Posted - 07/22/2010 :  11:54:32 Show Profile
this post about posting on the interweb is pretty awesome in it's sheer hypocrisy

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Robbie

Zoo Freak


 11   Posted - 07/22/2010 :  13:44:24 Show Profile Visit Robbie's Homepage Click to see Robbie's MSN Messenger address
http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9179507/Fake_i_femme_fatale_i_shows_social_network_risks?source=CTWNLE_nlt_security_2010-07-22

Hundreds of people in the information security, military and intelligence fields recently found themselves with egg on their faces after sharing personal information with a fictitious Navy cyberthreat analyst named "Robin Sage," whose profile on prominent social networking sites was created by a security researcher to illustrate the risks of social networking.

In a conversation with Computerworld, Thomas Ryan, co-founder of Provide Security, said he used a few photos to portray the fictional Sage on Facebook, LinkedIn and Twitter as an attractive, somewhat flirty cybergeek, with degrees from MIT and a prestigious prep school in New Hampshire. Then he established connections with some 300 men and women from the U.S. military, intelligence agencies, information security companies and government contractors.

The goal, said Ryan, was to determine how effective social networking sites can be in conducting covert intelligence-gathering activities.

Despite some patently obvious red flags -- such as noting that the 25-year-old Sage had worked professionally for 10 years -- the scheme worked. The connections to Sage, who was depicted as a real-life Abby Scuito, a fictional character in CBS's NCIS television series, were established in less than a month. Many friends freely shared personal information and photos, invited the fictional threat analyst to conferences and asked her to review documents. Some "friends" at major companies, including Google and Lockheed Martin, even expressed interest in hiring her, he noted.

Had Sage really been a foreign agent, she would have had access to a lot of very useful information, said Ryan, who is scheduled to present his findings next week at the BlackHat security conference in Las Vegas. Excerpts from his interview with Computerworld follow:

What prompted you to conduct the experiment? One of the biggest drivers was all the talk about cyberwarfare and cyberespionage -- and what's real and what's not real. I wanted to see how much intel you could gather from a person just by lurking on a social networking site. I [also] wanted to see who was most susceptible to clicking. I wanted to see how fast this thing would propagate. One of the things I found was that MIT and St. Paul's [prep school] were very cliquey. If they don't remember seeing you, they are not going to click. You had less of a chance of penetrating those groups than the actual intel and security communities.

How many connections and friends did Robin Sage make? On Facebook, 226; on LinkedIn, 206; and on Twitter, 204. The connections on Facebook were security and military, LinkedIn was mainly security and intel, and Twitter was mostly hackers.

Did Sage mostly seek out these friends, or were they more likely to make the first move? It was a combination of both. I did approach a few people, [mostly] from the security industry. They had the most connections. They are the speakers, the ones that are always sociable.

What type of information can one get through such connections? Pretty much everything. I had access to e-mail and bank accounts. I saw patterns in the kind of friends they had. The LinkedIn profiles would show patterns of new business relationships.

Why do you think Sage was so successful at making new connections? Because she was an attractive girl. It definitely had to do with looks.

Were most of the connections male? It wasn't all men. The male versus female split was 82% to 18%. The highest number of women were from the intelligence community. The only women who were there from the security community were people promoting conferences and stuff like that.

Do you think a fictional male character would have been as successful in attracting "friends"? It depends on who the male was and how he was portrayed.

What did Facebook do when they discovered what was going on? Facebook shut down the Robin page and my personal page. They said, due to security reasons, I am not allowed to use Facebook again. LinkedIn just deleted the Robin account but [a cached version] is still there on Google.

What's the takeaway from the experiment? The big takeaway is not to friend anybody unless you really know who they are. The same tactic was used to infiltrate a secret Israeli base. The people on the base were the only ones on a private Facebook page. Somebody was able to gain access to it and gather intel on the base.

Anything else? I was never able to friend anyone from the CIA or the FBI. I tried. It just didn't work. Toward the end of the experiment, there was this massive influx of Arabs from overseas that were trying to get on the Robin page where all the military stuff was. I didn't really care for it. That was a bit scary.

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When God made the ass, he didn't say, 'Hey, it's just your basic hinge, let's knock off early.' He said, 'Behold ye angels, I have created the ass. Throughout the ages to come, men and women shall grab hold of these, and shout my name!

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Jon

Rock Stacker


 12   Posted - 07/22/2010 :  16:17:26 Show Profile Visit Jon's Homepage
LOL...

so instead of not being dumb you stopped using the tool... good for you...

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Robbie

Zoo Freak


 13   Posted - 07/22/2010 :  16:21:23 Show Profile Visit Robbie's Homepage Click to see Robbie's MSN Messenger address
Wait until foursquare takes off. Not only will they know you, but they will know where you are

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When God made the ass, he didn't say, 'Hey, it's just your basic hinge, let's knock off early.' He said, 'Behold ye angels, I have created the ass. Throughout the ages to come, men and women shall grab hold of these, and shout my name!

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Insayn

Tail Gunner


 14   Posted - 07/22/2010 :  16:26:47 Show Profile Send Insayn an AOL Message Send Insayn a Yahoo! Message
The only thing Facebook has shown me is how fat all my ex-girlfriends have gotten.
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"A pint of sweat, saves a gallon of blood" -George S. Patton

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Mountainlander

The CRISCO Kid


 15   Posted - 07/22/2010 :  16:29:44 Show Profile Visit Mountainlander's Homepage Send Mountainlander an AOL Message
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The only thing Facebook has shown me is how fat all my ex-girlfriends have gotten.

Originally posted by Insayn - 07/22/2010 : 16:26:47
LMAO!

She has indeed, gotten really fat. She used to be hot!
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